
829- Shipping Container Shelter, Writers' Strike, DCS Center
Season 2023 Episode 171 | 27m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Shipping Container Shelter in Phoenix, WGA Strike ongoing, New Foster Care Center
Twenty unhoused people in Phoenix are set to move into a new solar-powered shelter constructed out of shipping containers. The WGA has been on strike for more than 100 days. There is a new trauma-informed center for children entering foster care.
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829- Shipping Container Shelter, Writers' Strike, DCS Center
Season 2023 Episode 171 | 27m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Twenty unhoused people in Phoenix are set to move into a new solar-powered shelter constructed out of shipping containers. The WGA has been on strike for more than 100 days. There is a new trauma-informed center for children entering foster care.
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>>> WE'LL LEARN ABOUT A NEW TRAUMA CENTER FOR CHILDREN ENTERING FOSTER CARE.
AND THE IMPACT OF THE HOLLYWOOD WRITER'S STRIKE WITH NO END IN SIGHT.
>> Announcer: THIS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE FRIENDS OF PBS.
THANK YOU.
>> Ted: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED A LIST OF TEN DRUGS THAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO PRICE NEGOTIATIONS WITH MEDICARE.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME MEDICARE HAS BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE PRICES DIRECTLY WITH DRUG MAKERS AND EXPECTED TO SAVE THE GOVERNMENT TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DOLLARS IN THE YEARS HEAD.
AHEAD.
JARDIANCE AND ELIQUIS ARE ON THE LIST TAKEN BY FEWER AND OLDER PATIENTS TO OTHERS TAKEN BY MASSIVE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE.
THE MOVE IS EXPECTED TO CUT COSTS FOR PATIENTS BUT FACING COURT ACTION BY THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY WHICH CALLED TODAY'S ANNOUNCMENT A, QUOTE, RUSHED PROCESS ON ECONOMIC CALAL GAME.
>> THEY'RE ARGUING THEY SHOULD HAVE NO LIMIT TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY AMERICANS SUPPORT THIS BY 80%.
>> Ted: HURRICANE IDALIA IS BEARING DOWN ON FLORIDA AND INTENSIFYING TO CATEGORY 2 STATUS AND EXPECTED TO REACH CATEGORY 3 WHEN IT MAKES LANDFALL TOMORROW.
THE MAYOR OF TALLAHASSEE SAYS HIS CITY IS AS READY AS IT CAN BE.
>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES FROM THE CITY OF HAL HAS TALLAHASSEE GOING INTO THE STORM AND WE'LL HUNKER DOWN AND ONCE THE STORM MOVES THROUGH, WE'LL BE PREPARED FOR RESTORATION AFTERWARDS.
>> Ted: THE GOVERNOR OF THE GEORGIA HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY AHEAD OF THE STORM.
>>> THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SAFETY JUST OPENED A NEW WELCOME CENTER FOR CHILDREN ENTERING FOSTERCARE.
THE CENTER IS DESIGNED TO HELP KIDS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT TRAUMA.
HERE IS DAVID LUJAN.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> Ted: GIVE ME A BETTER DEFINITION OF THE WELCOME CENTER.
>> A TRAUMA INFORM TRANSITION CENTER SO WHEN CHILDREN ARE UNFORTUNATELY REMOVED FROM THE HOME, YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW TRAUMATIC IT IS FOR CHILDREN.
WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS CREATE A CENTER THAT WILL MAKE IT AS WELCOMING, AS COMFORTING AND SOOTHING AS POSSIBLE FOR THESE KIDS.
IT'S A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE 20 TO 40 CHILDREN, BUT IT HAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE REALLY DESIGNED FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES.
>> Ted: THE POST TRAUMA ASPECT IS IMPORTANT AND HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE.
>> MAKING SURE WE HAVE STAFF ON SITE WHO ARE BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILIES.
PART OF THAT IS PUTTING THEM IN AN APES.
BEFORE,ATMOSPHERE.BEFORE, THEY WOULD BE PLACED SOMEWHERE THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE THAT'S WELCOMING TO KIDS.
THIS IS REALLY DESIGNED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM COMFORTABLE AND MAKE THEM FEEL THAT THIS IS A PLACE THEY CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE IN.
>> Ted: THIS IS LICENSED AND KINSHIP CAREGIVERS?
>> WHILE THEY'RE WITH US, WE HAVE ANOTHER PART OF THE FACILITY, WE HAVE OUR STAFF THAT ARE WORKING TO PLACE THEM WITH A COMMUNITY FOSTER FAMILYO KIN, FAMILY OR KIN OR GRANDPARENTS OR AUNTS, UNCLES.
>> Ted: ARE THESE ALL CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE OR THOSE WITH MAYBE MORE TRAUMA THAN USUAL?
THERE'S NO DELINEATION?
>> IT SERVES ABOUT 50% OF THE CHILDREN REMOVED AND THIS IS THEIR FIRST STEP BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE CHILDREN MIGHT GO DIRECTLY TO A KINSHIP PROVIDER, AUNT, UNCLE, AND FOR KIDS THAT DON'T HAVE AN IMMEDIATE PLACEMENT, THIS IS THEIR FIRST STOP.
>> Ted: FIRST OPENED WHEN, IN THE SPRING IN.
>> IN MARCH, SERVING ABOUT A THOUSAND CHILDREN AND THE RESULTS SO FAR HAVE BEEN REALLY PLEASING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE THIS MAKES FOR CHILDREN.
>> Ted: AS FAR AS THE SERVICES THAT ARE ON SITE, I WOULD IMAGINE PLAYGROUNDS, THESE SORTS OF THINGS AND WHAT HAVE YOU GOT THERE IN.
>> YEAH.
WE HAVE PLAYGROUNDS FOR TODDLERS, FOR 12-YEAR-OLDS AND WE HAVE BASKETBALL COURTS AND THINGS FOR TEENS AND THEN ON THE INSIDE, YOU HAVE ACTIVITY ROOMS AND FOR TEENS, YOU'VE GOT, LIKE, VIDEO GAMES AND THEN YOU'VE GOT LEGOS AND BARBIE AND JUST SUITED FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES IN SEPARATE AREAS, AND SEPARATE SLEEPING QUARTERS.
TEENS AND TODDLERS AND JUST SET UP TO ACCOMMODATE KIDS OF ALL AGES.
>> Ted: FOR INFANTS AND NURSES?
>> INFANTS AND NURSES ON SITE.
THE THING WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IN THE SPRING, PHOENIX CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL WOULD BE OPENING AN ON-SITE CLINIC TO REALLY PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES TO KIDS THAT ARE IN CARE.
>> Ted: SO WHEN THE KIDS COME IN, THEY STAY UNTIL SOMETHING IS FOUND FOR THEM AND HOW LONG DO THEY USUALLY STAY?
>> 24 TO 78 HOURS AND TEN TO 20 CHILDREN IN THIS FACILITY.
AS I SAID, THIS IS A DIFFERENCE COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD BEFORE, WHERE KIDS WERE HAVING TO STAY IN DCS OFFICES OR PLACES NOT IDEAL.
>> Ted: THE TYPICAL TIME MIGHT BE THAT AND LONGER, YOU'RE ABLE TO HANDLE KIDS WHO STAY LONGER?
>> EXACTLY.
IF THEY HAVE TO STAY LONGER, THIS FACILITY MAKES IT SO IT'S COMFORTABLE.
THEY'RE NOT WITH FAMILY BUT AS COMFORTABLE AND SUITABLE ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE IT FOR THEM.
>> Ted: FIRST CONTACT WITH THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM AND FIRST YOU WANT IT TO BE A SOFT LANDING.
>> JUST THINK OF WHAT KIDS ARE GOING THROUGH.
I GET THE DCS DIRECTORS AND EMAILS AND I LOOK AT THE NAMES AND AGES OF THE KIDS AND I THINK HOW SCARED THEY MUST BE AND WHAT A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE.
HAVING SEEN THIS WELCOME CENTER, IT'S REASSURING TO KNOW THEY'RE IN A PLACE THEY CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE AT AT EASE TO THE EXTENT THEY CAN.
>> Ted: IT'S ENCOURAGING NEWS AND WHILE YOU'RE HERE, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING NOT QUITE SO ENCOURAGING, PEOPLE GLITCH WITH MISSING DOCUMENTATION, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
>> YES.
SO IN 2021, DCS LAUNCHED A NEW COMPUTER SYSTEM AND CREATED A PORTAL SO THAT PROVIDERS WHO WE CONTRACT WITH, PEOPLE LIKE FACILITATORS WHO FACILITATE SERVICES OR HEALTH PROVIDERS, THEY CAN UPLOAD DOCUMENTS THAT ARE REPORTS THAT SHOULD GO TO US AND IT GOES INTO THIS PORTAL.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN IT WAS SET UP, IT WAS SET UP SO THAT IT JUST GOES INTO THIS PORTAL AND A NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS WERE NOT GETTING VIEWED AND SO, WE DISCOVERED THIS A CHANGEUP OF DISCOVERED THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
I AM COMMITTED TO BE AS ACCOUNTABLE AS WE CAN.
THE PEOPLE IMPACTED BY THE CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM TEA DESERVE THAT.
WE ARE GOING THROUGH ON CASE-BY-CASE BASIS TO LOOK TO SEE IF ANY OF THE CASES HAD DOCUMENTS THAT WERE NOT PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY.
>> Ted: WHILE ALL OF THIS GOING ON, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WANTS TO PUT CHILD WELL FAVOR WELFARE ON PAUSE FOR AWHILE.
>> THINK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE, POTENTIALLY SEPARATING FAMILIES AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE DOCUMENTS THEY NEED AND THE HOPEFUL THING IS IN MOST CASES THESE DOCUMENTS WERE PROVIDED THROUGH OTHER MEANS.
SO WE HOPE THAT WHAT WILL TURN OUT AND WE WILL PROVIDE AN ACCOUNTING WHEN WE'RE DONE OF ALL OF THIS SITUATION, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT IN ALMOST ALL, IF NOT ALL OF THESE CASES, THE DOCUMENTS WERE DISCLOSED.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT, WE'LL MAKE SURE PARTIES HAVE THE DOCUMENTS AND WE LOOK TO SEE WHETHER THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN DETERMINATIVE IN CHANGING THE OUTCOME.
>> Ted: THAT'S A LOT OF DELAY THERE AND THOUSANDS OF CASES, OBVIOUSLY, INVOLVED HERE.
THERE'S 139 REPORTED TO THE FINAL ADOPTION JEOPARDIZED ERA AND THE IMPLICATION FOR PARENTS, KIDS AND POTENTIAL ADOPTIVE PARENTS?
>> A POTENTIAL CHANGE IN THE OUTCOME, BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THESE DOCUMENTS LIKELY WERE DISCLOSED.
IF THEY WEREN'T, IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OR TWO DOCUMENTS AND GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE, WE DON'T THINK THEY'LL BE NECESSARILY DETERMINATIVE TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME, BUT I WANT TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE AND WE WANT TO MAKE THESE DOCUMENTS DISCLOSED AND GIVE THAT TIME.
IT'S A SHORT DELAY AND HOPE TO HAVE THIS COMPLETELY RESOLVED BY THE END OF OCTOBER.
AND IN THE CASES SCHEDULED FOR TRIAL, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE DOCUMENTS OUT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.
SO WE'RE MOVING AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
>> Ted: DAVID LUJAN, ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
>> THANKS.
>> Ted: UP NEXT, 20 UNHOUSED PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO A NEW SOLAR POWERED SHELTER MADE FROM SHIPPING CONTAINERS.
>> 20 UNHOUSED PEOPLE WILL BEING INTO SHELTERS MADE OUT OF SHIPPING CONTAINERS.
THIS WAS OUTSIDE OF St. VINCENT DEPAUL.
RACHEL MILNE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THIS IS AN INKNOW INNOVATIVE SOLUTION WITH "STEEL AND SPARK" AND ANONCONGREGATE SHELTER AND THIS SPACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL HOME.
>> Ted: HOW MANY CONTAINERS INVOLVED?
>> EACH X-WINGS HAS FOUR SHIPPING CONTAINERS AND HOUSE 20 INDIVIDUALS.
>> Ted: 20 INDIVIDUALS AND THE ROOMS, HOW BIG ARE THEY AND PRIVATE ROOMS, RIGHT?
>> YES, THEY ARE PRIVATE ROOMS.
SO AN INDIVIDUAL UNIT IS FIVE BY EIGHT AND WE ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE WITH THEIR PARTNERS WHO MIGHT WANT TO STAY WITH THEIR PARTNERS AND WE HAVE DOUBLE OCCUPATIONCY OCCUPANCY ROOMS AS WELL.
>> Ted: WHAT ABOUT PETS?
>> YES.
WE ALWAYS WANT TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE'S PETS.
>> Ted: IT'S X-WING BECAUSE THE FOUR ARE SITUATED LIKE AN X?
>> YES, IN THE SHAPE OF AN X AND IN THE CENTER ARE THE BATTERIES FOR THE SOLAR-POWERED FUNCTION.
>> Ted: I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.
HOWEVER, INSIDE A BED, DESK, THESE SORTS OF THINGS?
>> BEAUTIFUL AESTHETICS AND COMES WITH A BUILT-IN BED AND A DESK AND STORAGE FOR PEOPLE'S BELONGINGS AND OUTLETS FOR PEOPLE TO PLUG IN THEIR PHONE AND REALLY A NICE DIGNIFIED SPACE.
>> Ted: OUTLETS AND AIR CONDITION, TOO?
>> YES, ALL UNITS ARE AIR CONDITIONED.
>> Ted: AND NOW WE GET TO THE POWER, SOLAR POWER AND THE ENTIRE OPERATION IS SOLAR POWERED?
>> SOLAR POWERED BY DAY AND BATTERY POWERED BY NIGHT.
>> Ted: HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT?
>> THIS LOCAL COMPANY WHO CREATED MANY ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND ALL OTHER HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF PHOENIX, THAT'S THEIR SPECIALTY.
>> Ted: LET'S TALK ABOUT SECURITY AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN WITH THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESS.
>> NESS.
>> THIS WAS A UNIQUE SHELTER AND WE PARTNERED WITH MARICOPA COUNTY TO PARTNER AT A CITY-OWNED FACILITY.
MARICOPA COUNTY CONTRACTED WITH St. VINCENT DEPAUL TO BE THE OPERATOR OF THAT FACILITY.
WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY BRIDGES, INC, AND CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT THAT FACILITY.
IT'S A 200-PERSON SHELTER AND IT HAD A LOT OF EXTRA SPACE IN THE PARKING LOT WHY WE INSTALLED OUR FIRST X-WING.
>> Ted: SO, BASICALLY, St. VINCENT DEPAUL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THOSE SECURITY AND OTHER ASPECTS?
>> YES, St. VINCENT DEPAUL PROVIDES ALL ON SITE SERVICES AT THE X-WING AND THAT INCLUDES SECURITY, ALL CASE MANAGEMENT AND MEALS, SHOWERS, RESTROOM FACILITIES AND THOSE ARE ALL INSIDE AT THE CENTER.
>> Ted: AND CASE MANAGEMENT?
>> YES, OF COURSE.
>> Ted: CASE MANAGEMENT IS A BIG DEAL AND FILLING OUT RESUMES AND DOING THAT AND THOSE SERVICES ARE ON SITE?
>> YES.
THE WASHINGTON SHELTER BRINGS ALL KINDS OF NONPROFIT SERVICE PROVIDERS ON SITE TO HELP INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR HOMELESSNESS IN SERVE.
SHELTER.
>> Ted: WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR SELECTING RESIDENTS?
WHO SELECTS THIS?
>> WE WORKED WITH St. VINCENT DEPAUL TO FIND PEOPLE BETTER SUITED.
THEY WERE STAYING AT THE WASHINGTON STREET SHELTER AND SOME THE THINGS IS MAYBE PEOPLE WORKING OVERNIGHT WHO NEED AN INDOOR SPACE WHO WOULD BE BETTER SUITED IN A SPACE BY THEMSELVES WHERE THEY CAN MAKE THE ROOM DARK DURING THE DAY.
SO THEY CAN SLEEP.
>> Ted: BASICALLY, THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF ASPECTS LOOKED AT HERE AND YOU DON'T TAKE ANYONE WHO GETS IN LINE.
>> St. VINCENT DEPAUL WORKED TO DIE DOWN TIE DOWN THOSE 20 INDIVIDUALS TO MOVE IN.
WE HEARD STORIES OF PEOPLE WHO WERE EXCITED TO HAVE A SPACE OF THEIR OWN.
>> Ted: I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE REACTION, BUT THE REACTION MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING, HUH?
>> HEART-WARMING AND TOUCHING VIDEOS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE JUST PLEASED TO HAVE A DOOR TO CLOSE, TO HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE.
>> Ted: WITH THAT IN MIND, GOING TO SEE MORE OF THIS KIND OF THING?
>> THIS WAS THE FIRST OF FOUR THAT THE CITY OF PHOENIX PURCHASED AND THIS ONE IS LOCATED AGAIN AT THE WASHINGTON STREET SHEESH SHELTER AND THE OTHER THREE, THERE ARE TENTATIVE LOCATIONS.
>> Ted: NOT GOING TO GIVE THOSE OUT QUITE YET?
>> NO.
[ Laughter ] >> Ted: RACHEL MILNE, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING IT WITH US.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Ted: THE HOLLYWOOD WRITER'S STRIKE BEGAN ON MAY 2nd AND SHOWS NO SIGN OF EASING AS THE WRITERS' GUILD OF AMERICAN AND ALLIANCE OF MOTION PICTURE AND TELEVISION PRODUCERS REMAIN AT ODDS.
FOR MORE ON ALL OF THIS, WE WELCOME GOODY KUNTZ.
ARE YOU SURPRISED HOW LONG THIS HAS GONE ON?
>> IF YOU LISTEN TO THE RHETORIC, NOT REALLY.
MOST OF THESE GET RESOLVED MORE QUICKLY AND I THINK THE ISSUES THIS TIME AROUND HAVE BOTH SIDES MORE DUG IN THAN STRIKES IN THE PAST.
>> Ted: WHAT ARE THOSE ISSUES?
>> WELL, ONE IS PAY, OF COURSE.
THAT'S TYPICALLY AN ISSUE WITH ANY STRIKE AND BENEFITS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT A BIG DRIVING ISSUE IS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR A.I.
AND, BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT JUST THE WRITERS ON STRIKE.
THE ACTORS ARE ALSO ON STRIKE.
THEY WENT ON STRIKE IN JULY.
THE WHOLE THING IS SHUT DOWN.
IT WILL START TO AFFECT THE SCHEDULES.
"DUNE 2" YESTERDAY WAS PUSHED INTO 2024 BECAUSE NOT ONLY CAN PEOPLE MAKE STUFF, BUT THEY CANNOT POE MOTE PROMOTE STUFF.
IT'S PART OF THE RULES OF THEIR UNIONS.
THE ACTORS DON'T WANT THEIR IMAGES AND LIKENESSES TO BE USED IN PERPETUITY WITHOUT PAY, WHICH THEY CAN DUE.
BACKGROUND ACTORS, THEY CAN BE DIGITALLY CREATED NOW.
WITH THE WRITERS, THEY DON'T WANT -- FOR ONE THING, THEY DON'T WANT A.I.
TO START WRITING SCRIPTS.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
AT THIS POINT WITH WHERE GENERATIVE IS AT THE MOMENT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE.
YOU CAN TELL THINGS THAT A.I.
HAS WRITTEN.
BUT MORE SO THAN THAT, THEY DON'T WANT TO TRAIN A.I.
SO THAT THEY'RE LEARNING ON THE BACKS OF THE SCRIPTS PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN.
>> Ted: THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I DON'T CARE, A.I.
DOESN'T EXIST IN A VACUUM.
IT DOES WHAT IT DOES BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND THE FACT THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME -- IF A.I.
SPITS OUT A SENTENCE, IT DIDN'T COME UP WITH THAT SENTENCE WITHOUT SOME OTHER PERSON PUTTING A SENTENCE TOGETHER.
>> THAT'S TRUE INNY IN ANY INDUSTRY WHERE THERE'S WRITING.
THE STUDIOS HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA OF HOW A.I.
WORKS AND HOW THEY SHOULD COMPENSATE FOR IT.
THE ACTORS, AND PARTICULARLY THE WRITERS HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA.
FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO USE A WORD THAT EVERYBODY IS SCARED.
THEY'RE AFRAID OF WHAT IT WILL DO TO THEIR JOBS AND THEIR FUTURE AND DEFINITELY AFRAID OF WHAT IT'S DOING TO THEIR LIVELIHOOD.
>> Ted: WITH THAT IN MIND, ARE THE SIDES REALLY FAR APART?
DO THE PRODUCERS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
>> I SAW THE OTHER DAY SOMEONE DESCRIBE THE DIFFERENCES AS THE GRAND CANYON.
>> Ted: OH, MY GOODNESS.
>> THAT DOESN'T SOUND GREAT.
THE WRITERS IN THEIR LAST MEETINGS, THEY SAID THAT IT WAS NOT NOTHING BUT NOT ENOUGH, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A REALLY WRITERLY WAY TO PUT IT.
OF COURSE THEY'LL SAY IT IN AN INTERESTING WAY.
PEOPLE WHO KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS THAN ME, WHICH IS A LOT OF PEOPLE, EDUCATED GUESSES AND THAT'S ALL THEY ARE RIGHT NOW IS EDUCATED GUESSES, AND MAYBE SOMETIME INTO OCTOBER, WHICH IS A LONG TIME.
THAT WILL MESS AROUND WITH A LOT OF SCHEDULING AND YOU THINK YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE MOVIE AND TV SHOWS PUSHED BACK BECAUSE OF THIS.
AGAIN, IF YOU CAN'T PROMOTE -- AS YOU KNOW, PROMOTION IS A BIG PART OF THIS.
THERE'S RED CARPETS AND TV APPEARANCES, LATE NIGHT SHOW.
ALL THE LIGHT NIGHT SHOWS AREN'T ON RIGHT NOW AND THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO REALLY PROMOTE THESE THINGS.
AND SOME MOVIES, MAYBE THEY DON'T NEED IT.
SOME MOVIES DEFINITELY DO.
WHERE WOULD "BARBIE" HAVE BEEN WITHOUT THAT PROMOTIONAL PUSH.
IT GOT IN UNDER THE WIRE.
>> Ted: WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S NOT JUST ACTORS ON STRIKE AND WRITERS ON STRIKE.
ONCE EVERYTHING SHUTS DOWN, GO LOOK AT A CREDIT AFTER A FILM.
LOOK AT ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED.
THEY'RE NOT WORKING RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
AND THE CREW IS A BIG PART OF IT.
I ONCE TALKED TO THE RICHARD KIMES WHO IS FRIENDS WITH GEORGE CLOONEY AND HE WOULD NOT WANT TO BE GEORGE CLOONEY'S PICTURE BECAUSE IT AFFECTS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.
IF HE DOESN'T DO A MOVIE IF THE WORKS, THEN 200 PEOPLE DON'T HAVE JOBS.
>> Ted: WHY?
>> THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
THERE'S AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY -- THERE'S A WHOLE TOWN AND CITY THAT IS DEPENDENT ON THIS.
ENTERTAINMENT IS LOS ANGELOS AND THE WHOLE CITY IS WAITING TO SEE HOW THIS THING WILL PLAY OUT.
>> Ted: WITH THAT IN MIND, THE LONGER'S WRITER'S TRY WAS 154 154 DAYS BACK IN 1988.
WHAT WAS THE LASTING IMPACT OF THAT ACTION?
[ Laughter ] >> I'M NOT SURE.
I KNOW A MORE RECENT STRIKE WAS OVER RESIDUALS FROM DVD'S.
I KNOW THAT'S -- THEY GOT THAT SORTED OUT AND IT WAS LIKE THIS, IT WAS LIKE DUI, A.I., A TECHNOLOGY THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T SEE COMING.
THEY HADN'T MADE ARRANGEMENTS FOR IT.
BUT NOW A.I.
AS YOU KNOW, NOT JUST HERE BY EVERYWHERE IS EVERY-EVOLVING.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT THING IS.
IT'S TRYING TO SORT THAT OUT AND COMPENSATE PEOPLE FAIRLY FOR IT IS JUST -- I MEAN, AT THE MOMENT, AT LEAST, IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
>> Ted: THE LAST QUESTION AND I ASK THAT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS A MORTAL WOUND WITH THE 80'S AND DVD'S.
THIS WON'T BE A MORTAL WOUND BUT WILL IT CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE FOREVER IN.
>> IT WON'T BE A MORTAL WOUND.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE TV AND MOVIES IN SOME FASHION.
I THINK IT HAS ALREADY CHANGED THE INDUSTRY.
I THINK THERE ARE BAD FEELINGS ON BOTH SIDES AND NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS IT WILL HAVE TO DO IS CHANGE THE WAY THAT STREAMING SERVICES ACCOUNT FOR SUCCESS THERE'S NO NIELSON COMPANY THAT GIVES IT RATINGS FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCH A STREAMING SHOW.
WE'RE BASICALLY DEPENDENT ON THE COMPANY TO TELL US HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCHED "STRANGER THINGS."
MAYBE THEY'RE TELLING THE TRUTH AND MAYBE THEY'RE NOT.
THE WHOLE THING IS BASED ON THAT IN TERMS OF COMPENSATION.
THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE ACCOUNTABLE.
>> Ted: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Ted: I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
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